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for the programs that are important for millions of americans to continue, they have to be part of the fiscal cliff deal because it's unlikely that house republicans would allow these to appear freestanding. using these as leverage in terms of negotiation. house republicans could sleep fine knowing the payroll tax cut is not extended and the ui is not extended. they think that's too much spending. >> which is crazy because they're arguing for the top earners really putting their stake in the ground on top earners and when it comes to working class and poor tax cuts are a bad thing. >> the payroll tax cut there's a division between democrats about how much you want to raid the social security trust fund. but unemployment insurance, i think absolutely has to be part of the deal from the white house perspective aside from it fitting the democrat ex-ideology, it's also what president obama believes is a stimulus to the economy. >> yeah. >> that helps people have disposable income to go to restaurants, buy gas, buy food, to pay things for their children. and i would be very surprised if it ended up as p
with the decisions? what do americans, average americans, want to see in a fiscal cliff deal? steve leisman here now with our exclusive results of the cnbc all-america economic survey. what do americans want, steve? >> what you would expect. free stuff, tyler. actually, no, we'll get into that in a second. first we want to show you results of our december cnbc all-america survey. what we asked about the fiscal cliff. the first thing we wanted to establish is do people know about this thing? we looked at some of the other times we've asked this. what we'll see right here is other situations where they knew it, where other main stories that were out there. for example, the trayvon martin shooting. 91% of americans knew about that. occupy wall street, 80%. going forward what you have here, facebook, 72%. all the way down to 70%. you can look at this a couple ways. here's the greek financial crisis. 30% of the public not really paying attention to. inside that 70% number, 36% have know a lot about it. we'll compare with other stuff we asked last time about when they had a debt -- big deficit debate. we
to be digging in on a fiscal cliff deal and so right now it's a stalemate. >> for right now i would say we're nowhere. period. we're nowhere. >> what are the chance we'll go over the live? >> there's clearly chance. >> tuning we'll get a deal by the end. year. >> do i. >> i think we'll go over the cliff. >> republicans are angry the president presented them with an offer they don't think is serious. but the president's new negotiating strategy is clear, don't give in. don't start with concessions. even as some republicans say they don't think they need to put out any kind of formal proposal. let me bring in "the washington post" columnist and our politics reporter. good morning. so the headline in the "new york times" is pushing the gop to negotiate, obama ends giving in. and peter baker writes that president obama has emerged kind of a different style of negotiator in the past week or two, sticking to the liberal line, frustrating the republicans clearly. this is a strategy his base might like but i'm wondering will it make him a better deal maker? >> it just may mean that republicans ult
is reached on a fiscal cliff deal, that's a big if, serious problems with the economy will remain and it's time to ask the tough questions about the middle class. joining us now, lindsey piegza, economist with ftn financial. lindsey, as always thanks for being here. you say businesses and consumers will face hash realities next year regardless of what washington does on the fiscal cliff. what are those realities? >> right now everyone is very much focused getting a compromise done but even if we get the president's plan, even if we get the republican's plan very likely that shaves growth down to under 1% for the first half of the year. that is dismal outlook regardless whether or not we come to a compromise. that is much more positive outlook than falling off the cliff outright but still doesn't set us up for long-term growth. plus neither one of these proposes asks the tough questions of the middle class saying long term do we want to take on a bigger tax burden or do we want to cut the social programs? the conversation to me seems very disingenuous when we're talking about 100 trillion
is live in washington. nice to see you. new polls. what do americans want to see in a fiscal cliff deal? >> the polls are at these num, the big sticking points, should taxes be raised on those making over $250,000 a taxes would be raised if there's no deal to avert the fiscal cliff. yesterday as you said, the president was in northern virginia meeting with a middle class family who would suffer if there was no deal. last week the president went to suburban philadelphia, to a small business again to make the point of his side in these fiscal cliff negotiations. different than a year and a half ago when the president dealt only with republicans in congress. this time he is taking the case to americans and getting outside of washington, d.c. congressional republicans not so happy that the president is doing this. >> we understand that. paul steinhauser live in washington, thank you. >>> let's talk more about the fiscal cliff. we have the washington correspondent for the new yorker and cnn contributor ryan lizza with us. john boehner and the president in a room, just the two of them. good i
and go to the fiscal cliff. how much harder does that make it to reach. a deal? >> it really doesn't make it anymore difficult. we're see egg the usual choreography of negotiations where the parties start o out with their opening positions. what the speaker doesn't like is he's in a weak position on this it issue. he needs to have a heart to heart discussion with his conference and say, look, we lost the election. we lost on this issue. the american people are not with us on this issue. they think those who have done well can be asked to do more. we're going to have to give. the thaj for the president is to know how much he needs to give to the speaker to allow the speaker to sell that to his own conference. >> i have to bet all of you watching have ideas on where the middle ground lies. do you have a position on that? do you see it? >> i have certainly some idea of where the compromise could be. the president has set a target for how much new revenue he wants. you can get a lot of that by raising the rates above $250. if there was additional eliminations, you can get to the same number a
no deal. >> the president wants more revenue and fewer spending cuts then if we fell off the fiscal cliff. >> pulling the rug out from under these families would delay the recovery. how do we get the economy moving? weekly unemployment claims spike. governor chris christie pressed president obama for additional aid. >> i am going home, guys. >> hiring plans plans last month. matching a record low from november of 2008. planned layoffs rose 20% to their highest levels in six months. consumer spending is down. >> i want to thank tiffany. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations are down to president obama and john boehner. the uncertainty could take a toll. >> it hasn't affected hiring and layoff decisions yet but it will if we get into next year and haven't nailed this down. >> on monday the president travels to michigan to talked economy at a diesel plant. >> why is superstar sandy plain such a role in the jobs report? >> 24 states were affected one way or the other. businesses had to shut down. between the fiscal cliff and senate come when my has seen it up to 200,000 jobs added. instead we're l
to cave there will not be a fiscal cliff that will be damaging. neil: i tell you, better no deal than the deal they are coming up with right now. i raise with you othis, fair and balanced about this with president bush, he read that relatively close election with john kerry as a mandate to do all sorts of things, and mandate of the not there i think it was a case of overreach now, and this president is overreaching now, difference now is that you have a whole powerful section of the economy, going to along for this ridiculous ride. >> you have to be careful, correct thaidon't think that hat president has is the result of a huge electoral victory, it was good but not huge, where the hand comes from is knowing the american people how they feel with respect to increases in taxes but equally as important. is how the cuts end upcoming down, there are going to be cuts, one other thing, charley. neil: do you think there will be spending cuts ? >> definitely. it is going to happen. it -- it will be historic. neil: not part of this deal. >> it will be historic. >> it will happen. neil: opening
pressure as part of a broader fiscal cliff deal. there's an article on the front page of today's "wall street journal" that highlights other ways people are trying to take advantage of the certainty over the final few weeks of 2012. some of the examples they cite are people said to be accelerating large medical expenses for this year and selling appreciated stock in some cases even prepaying their mortgages so they can make sure they get the mortgage interest deduction. and, bob, you think -- for a lot of people that won't matter? >> you have the amt. so if you take excessive deductions, they just disappear. which is one of the things about all of this about limiting these deductions which is kind of silly because the amt does it in the aggregate. and of course the amt is grabbing more and more people and it's one of the things they want to reform, but if they reform it, they have to raise taxes someplace else. so it's confusing. >> but that's the worst part of it, a simpler tax code that someone could actually understand and now how things work that allows less room for loophole so is
efforts to reach a deal over the fiscal cliff. the president needs to make the next move. >> it is not going to help our economy, and it is not going to help those seeking work. i came out to put revenues on the table and to take a step toward the president to resolve this. when is he going take a step toward us? >>> welcome back and time for a quick check of the head loins. headlines. john mcafee is fighting deportation from guatemala to belize. he is wanted for questioning in the death of a neighbor. he became a millionaire after developing anti-virus software. >>> and former south african president nelson mandela is undergoing testing at a hospital. the 94-year-old hasn't made public appearances for years. >>> and a massive typhoon devastating the philippines has made a u-turn. the storm already killed nearly 600 people, and now it is threatening to mick a second land -- threatening to make a second landfall. greg? >>> president obama asking pong for tens -- asking for tens and billions of dollars. he is calling for $64 billion for hard-hit new york and nerming new jer
to get a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. senate majority leader harry reid just took the floor. he tried to get a vote on the fiscal cliff deal at 1:30, but minority leader mitch mcconnell, republican objected to that proposal saying i matter of such importance, 60 vote threshold, majority was born to do. now it will not happen, no vote today on the debt ceiling, fiscal cliff proposal to basically the breaking news is we're back where we started. melissa: what is the hottest stock on wall street these days. trading under. the bidding war for my favorite bank analyst. i love dick bove. speaker he is in purgatory. a billion dollars unauthorized trade was described as a rogue trader. presumption of innocence, he was arrested earlier in the week. take the firm, the firm has been closed down since then. dick bove has been in purgatory. sources are telling us bove reseed essentially 17 offers to join him, he is now down to five, he has contracted form in five firms. he believes he'll be making the decision on which of these five firms he will go to in the coming days. he says he is close to a
francis. lori: i am lori rothman. the president saying we can get a fiscal cliff deal done in one week but wall street not so sure. recession warning coming up.
@5:30. >> he is definitely a hero for sure. >> the fear in fiscal cliff. there is no deal in sight and both sides showing no signs of budging. doug luzader is live with us with details. have they reached a deal overnight? did that happen? >> nothing yet. despite early optimism they might reach a deal before the end of the year there are some that think we will head over at the end of the year. the economy could enter the year into another recession. the white house took great care to make sure the president was barely seen as he headed out for a big golf outing. the clock meanwhile keeps ticking an the point man the president's point man in fiscal cliff negotiations took to five sunday talk shows to make the administration's case. >>> we think that's a very good set of proposals that's what is good for the economy. if they have got different suggestions twhaent to go further in some areas they should lay it out to us. >> the president's plan called for $1.6 trillion in new taxes over the next decade mostly with the wealthy. those would be sure. less sure the promised spending cuts republica
to find a deal on fiscal cliff. wherego to the newsroom richard will tell us. president and house speaker john boehner met privately. both emphasize the lines of communication remain open. one person watching all this is a woman with to power brokers on capitol hill. f is very muchclif the mind of linda. they need to put aside these differences they have. of 10 employees at the capitol hill that counts house itsker john boehner among customers. she worries about the year and a possible government cutbacks. >> they are our main source of keeping the business open. if it goes down any further, we might end up closing up. k of a deficit deal a $800 billion in domestic and defense cuts that family taxes could rise $3,500. is going to be a lot of suffering among a lot of people who deserve otherwise. the white house wants a tax on the rich and increase on the debt limit. say tax tight cost american jobs. medicare is going bankrupt, inability will be bankrupt two years. of democratsity republicans to reach a compromise is frustrating to about socialry security and medicare benefits. a lot of ti
. >> it is eye popping isn't it. pray congress makes a deal to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. high income workers there will get more than 50 percent. it targets income brackets. state taxes went up. they are now higher than both new york city as well as hawaii. >> when it comes to jobs being added different numbers, 118,000. >> this is the first week of the month we get a lot of jobs data. storm event coming in when i say storm literally we will see the effects of super storm sandy. private job creation says businesses added 118,000 jobs in november. if it were not for sandy that number would have been north of 200,000. adt may have a stronger jobs report that's the big one economists look at. we expect 93,000 nonfarm jobs have been created last month. the numbers are weak and they suggest it's not just a storm but it is worried about the fiscal cliff holding businesses back from hiring. >> business owners and other people on e-mail which is most of us. when you are reading the e-mails and writing them you rate changes. >> pay attention i guess. do you hold your breath when you are readi
now than there was six months ago, how does that work? there was no fiscal cliff deal six months from now and still no deal. so i'm not sure why we think there's more uncertainty. i would say if you really think about it the president has a lot of ways to delay the impact. for example, our withholding table don't have to get change order january 1. even if you haven't struck a deal, you don't adjust the withholding tables. for now you can delay the pain. so there is wiggle room in terms of when the impact has to be felt. >> but is there where wiggle rom the investing world who looks at the united states and says these guys are a bunch of keystone cops. this cost us with the last round of negotiations back in the summer of 2011 when the debt rating agencies said if you can't find some civil way to talk to each other, we're going to cut your rating. >> it was nice seeing the ratings agencies make a comments on u.s. democracy. that was helpful. i think, though, is there some deal that can be struck, yes. when does it get done, i think it's probably less important to be better before year
in place. and it recalls that fiscal cliff, but the deal of made a year and a half ago, the republicans, democrats and president signed off on this, allowing tax increases to go back in place. and they signed on to half a trillion in cuts, in domestic programs and half a trillion in defense, understand what this is as a conservative, defense is 16% of the budget. other 84% gets half a trillion, defense getting half a trillion. the democrats are welcoming this to happen. >> the guy who ran second to mitt romney, many argue now with -- i think this is -- republicans are running with tail between their legs, and they are a lighter blue. >> they are referred to as cheap democrats. neil: you are persona nongratta now. or party we knew is gone. >> i'm hoping that is not the case. i'm hoping we'll have new members come in. and you know, we -- just saw it, i got involved in not a fiscal thing but it had to do with a u.n. treaty that the left's to s to hoist on u.s. that thing was going to pass, we got involved, an organization that i run, patriot voices, we stirred up the pot, got people to pay
could be a big deal for sure. but what could trump the fiscal cliff, study this. it's the need to get out of your mother-in-law's house. get your own home. intuitive concept for those, when you think about it. we got to break here as toll brothers actually down on the news today because the market's so darn tough. i expect downgrades tomorrow from people who don't believe things can stay this strong and that could be your strong to be analysts who always downgrade ar the report. here's the bottom line. we need hope to be vanquished. we need it spindled, mutilated. chex out the holders, thinking it's imminent and leave the room and then return to what i've been tracing and huge cycles of pent-up demand. buy them on the way down. never on the way up. you can take your time. do not leave this market wholesale. who the heck knows when and from what level you can get back in. why don't we go to tom in new york. tom? >> caller: hi, jim. could this offset same-store sales and make it a buy? >> i think it moved already. one of those stocks that moves in gigantic gobs, to speak and had its gob
a deal done more than me. so he's trying to essentially give some encouragement to get the fiscal cliff deal talks ignited and going. and so this comes on -- the speech is coming on a breaking news day jenna of what you and i were talking about and that is basically citigroup laying off 11,000 workers as the president is now speaking to the business roundtable. those layoffs at the nation's third biggest bank have begun. jenna: let's talk a little bit more about that, liz, that news came into our newsroom a couple of hours ago. you've been working this. learning more about also what is to come for the big bank. why is the bank making such massive job layoffs now and what is really to come in the next year or so? >> reporter: yeah, what we're talking about here is essentially this is citigroup, this i is the bank that got $476 billion in bailout help. it got the most bailout help of any bank. what happened was citigroup was -- its ceo had stepped down a couple months ago, now they have a new ceo by the name of michael corbett, an is working very aggressively to cut out the excess, the mi
. congress had trouble putting together a deal. now the u.s. may be heading for the fiscal cliff. what does that mean for you and your investments? we have the jobs report today for a brief moment. we weren't worried about the fiscal cliff. now, we are back. what do you make of it? >> the jobs report was okay. there are some signs of very modest improvement in jobs. the good news is we have not really lost momentum and i will put that in the victory column. from a very short-term perspective, it is the fiscal cliff that is on everyone's mind. consumer sentiment is starting to decline. that suggested everyone seems to be focused on the fiscal cliff. when you are focused on uncertainty, what do you do, you do nothing. those are the major implementations for the economy. cheryl: i can hear the hesitancy in your voice. a lot of our guests are saying the same thing. they are afraid of what washington will do or maybe not do. your outlook is a bit more bullish than some of your colleagues. what are you saying in the second half of 2013 that others are not? >> on a very short-term basis, we have n
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leaders that if they use the fiscal cliff to wage a deal they have another thing coming. >> it is a bad strategy for america and it is not a gamely play. >> the stalemate comes as both parties remain at odds on whether to raise taxes on the welty and how deep to cut entitlement programs like social security and medicare. >> just because we're at a stalemate doesn't mean we won't get to a deal. >> they explain that grand standing is part of the play book. >> they will use every day between christmas and new years to push back and forth to have each side air their grievances. >> lawmakers left town for a long weekend. except -- >>i will be here and will be available to sit down with the president. >> the white house did not say when the president will sit down with speaker boehner but we know that the president will hit the road to make his case on the fiscal cliff in detroit. >> the sheriff's office is trying to figure out what caused a vehicle to veer you have a the road and down an embankment. we were above the scene along winters run road just along singers run road. they had to free
of an overall deal before want fiscal cliff. how big is the deal going to be? how much in revenues? how much are we going to do with entitlements and then it has to go through the committee of jurisdiction how to do tax reform right and health care right. you need to come up with a top line parent of the deal and make sure it's big enough to fix the problem. one of the concerns i have is start negotiating down and down and down and not really fix the problem and there's no impetus to finish up. >> they have to scale back the cliff, the tax increases and spending cuts. the second is the debt ceiling. and the third thing is the path to fiscal sustainability, the long-term deficit reduction, tax reform, reforms to the entitlement programs that get to us a stable g.d.p. in the future. and that has to all be done at once. i don't think you can do this in parts. >> schieffer: let me ask the question which i'm sure there is no answer to, but what do you all think is most likely to happen? >> i think we're going to go over the cliff for a couple weeks, fingers crossed, we're then going to have a dea
>>> this morning on "meet the press," time is running out to avoid the fiscal cliff. is a deal closer than most think? >>> in public, the lines are drawn. but behind the scenes, the give and take over taxes and entitlement cuts point toward a deal by christmas. what is standing in the way? this morning, the debate is right here. the house speaker's top lieutenant, congressman kevin mccarthy, and top white house ally, the assistant senate majority leader, dick durbin. mccarthy and durbin square off. >>> then, what is the political endgame for both republicans and democrats? who wins and who loses as this fight drags on? >>> plus, the future of the republican party is a hot topic as both sides start plotting the 2016 campaign. our political roundtable features two former capitol hill insiders, newt gingrich and lawrence o'donnell. plus, three journalists on the story. >>> the looming fiscal cliff 22 days away. is it stalemate or compromise? we'll go inside the negotiations with two top leaders in just a moment, but i want to start with the ongoing crisis in syria where the assad
't support any deal to avoid the fiscal cliff if it doesn't include higher tax rates on the wealthiest americans. nbc's mike viqueira at the white house for us. mike, we are 24 days and counting. where does the situation stand right now? >> reporter: which is over at the advent calendar here and start counting down the days to the fiscal cliff. the president said this morning in his weekly address he will not compromise on this issue of raising taxes. no compromise. he said i think it's the most forecefully he's ever said it, alex. there is some wiggle room. how high are the rates going to go for the wealthiest americans. visiting a d.c. area diner, vice president joe biden said if the gop were willing, a debt deal could be done in short order. >> it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision was made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent the middle class tax cut. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. >> reporter: but even after the latest in a series of private calls with the president, house speaker j
. >> the race toward the fiscal cliff without a deal in sight. we are hours away from the november jobs report. peter doocy is live in washington with more. hi, peter. >> today's unemployment effort will be the first since super storm sandy hit the east. any jobs that were lost economists are expecting a lousy report as a result of the storm. but regardless of what the number is, we are still one day closer to the fiscal cliff. even though speaker of the house john boehner's office says the lines of communication on both sides are open we know one thing is not being discussed by democrats and that one thing is extending the busheir raw tax cuts for top earners. >> oo i am not going to sign any package that prevents the top to go up but i am going to get something that is good for this fm lay and good for the american economy. >> in the senate mitch mcconnell proposed a vote on the part of the president's proposal that would allow the white house and not congress to control on its own without their input. but majority leader harry reid said that is not. >> if the president's proposal is made in
a deal on the fiscal cliff, or that they drag it out over a number of months. and that that really erodes confidence. >> repoer: against that backdrop, the federal reserve is trying to do all it can to help the economy. the central bank is widely expected to announce an extension of its bond buying program when it meets next week. erika miller, "n.b.r.," new york. >> tom: with the fiscal cliff about three weeks away, washington hasn't made much progress to avoid it. that was the assessment from one of those directly involved: house speaker john boehner. the top republican today accused president obama of, "slow walking", the economy to the edge of the cliff. he repeated his call for the president to send congress a plan that can pass both houses of congress. tax rates are the major sticking point. the president wants to raise them for america's highest earners, house republicans strongly oppose: >> instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue
and the president have 24 days to reach a deal, before the fiscal cliff's tax hikes and spending cuts take effect. >> susie: mark zandi says "bad things will happen to the economy pretty fast" if lawmakers don't settle the fiscal cliff issue. he's chief economist of moody's analytics. so mark falling off the fiscal cliff means bad things. how bad? >> it could be quite bad, susie. i don't think it's if we get into january and we haven't settled this but if house makers haven't nailed this down by early february, i think stock investors, bond investors will start to get very very nervous, start selling, risky businesses pull back and by the end of february when we start approaching the ceiling for the debt limit, i think we'll be back in recession. it will be a fairly severe recession. so policy makers have a few weeks but not much more than that. they have to get this together. >> susie: some people are saying that today's jobs report is very encouraging and that you can look at this as a way that maybe the economy can handle some stuff belt tightening because things are looking a little bit bett
for the wealthiest 2% of americans. >> and the "fiscal cliff" deadline is now a day closer and still no deal between the president and republicans. political reporter grace lee is live in the newsroom with what this gridlock could cost californians. grace. >> reporter: well, liz, now we have some very real numbers that's what's at stake if we go over the "fiscal cliff." the daily democrat predicts that our state could lose $4.5 billion and lose about 200,000 jobs and with 26 days until that deadline, the painful reality is just becoming more clear. >> at 3:00, they want to start us closing on wednesday at noon. >> reporter: a social security employee for 30 years he is joining fellow federal workers across the u.s. to spread the word that the "fiscal cliff" is looming and at stake, social security benefits for millions. >> they seem to go for the people who had the least political pull, poor, disabled, people in east oakland. >> reporter: people like a social secure recipient who relies on every federal dollar. if these benefits were to be cut how would this affect you and your friends? >> oh, wow.
the fiscal cliff deal has come to? why 81-year-old former senator alan simpson is going gangnam style to get everyone's attention on debt. >> it has officially jumped the shark. >>> alan st. pierre is the executive director for the national,or for the reform of marijuana laws. oregon senator jeff merkley, heidi ewing, and rachel grady will be joining us. steve satich, ohio congressman, steve latourette, and ambassador nick burns are our guests this morning. it's thursday, december 6th, and "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome, everybody. our starting point this morning, some major developments to tell you about in egypt, after angry protests against political moves by the president, mohamed morsi, have turned deadly. tanks, armored personnel vehicles, all stationed outside the presidential analysis cairo. not only are they guarding the palace, they're also keeping apart supporters and opponents of morsi. hundreds of his islamist supporters already taking to the streets in cairo this morning. opponents are gathering not very far away. last night the two sides clashed right outside t
. in the next half hour, we'll talk about the prospect for a fiscal cliff deal with california's democratic congressman xavier becerra. >>> the rain and flooding are relentless in northern california. four storms in less than a week left at least one death now attributed to those storms. and more rain is expected today. let's get right to meteorologist rob marciano. he is following it all from the cnn weather center in atlanta. good morning. >> good morning, zoraida. this is the worst stretch of storms that northern california has seen really in about two years. another punch today then we'll set up for a dry trend. the good news is that it has been dry so the ground, even though we've seen a lot of major flooding, the ground has absorbed a fair amount of it. seattle to portland, rain right now. snow at the highest elevations, and the rain will eventually push down into san francisco and sacramento later on today. this system is actually messing up the atmosphere and creating a lot of warmth across much of the country. if you live anywhere east of the rockies, actually anywhere east of the
from that fiscal cliff. did anything happen today to bring us closer to a deal? let's get the facts. eamon javers on capitol hill now with the story. >> reporter: hi, the story up here on capitol hill, speaker of the house john boehner facing a bit of a brush fire on the right here. senator jim de mint calling the proposal an $800 billion tax hike earlier today. saying that's going to allow washington to continue to spend money here on capitol hill. that's been met with a little bit of interest here in the halls of congress because that's a sign that republican conservatives are not entirely thrilled with the speaker's proposal to the president of the united states. it brings up the question of how much the speaker can actually negotiate with the president and how much his hands are going to be tied by dealing with his own conservative caucus here on the hill. talking with those republican members today, it seems like the speaker still has the upper hand. that's going to narrow some of the running room that the speaker has going forward. very, very dicey situation for speaker boehne
the president told the business round table that a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff could be reached quickly if republicans drop their opposition to raising tax rates on the wealthy. and in an interview on cnbc, timothy geithner says the gop is making a little bit of practice, but the white house is absolutely ready to go over the cliff if tax rates on the top 2% don't rise. >> our obligation is first do no harl. we need to lift that threat over the economy. and now as part of that, we'd like to put in place as i said a carefully designed mix of reforms to put our fiscal balance in the path of sustainability. as long as there is recognition by the other side that those rates will go up, we think we can reach an agreement on the set of reforms as i said that will be good for the economy. >> republicans were quick to hit back. orrin hatch called them stunning and irresponsible, but there may be more cracks in the ranks. "washington post" reports some moderate and conservative republicans are calling on boehner to concede on taxes now while he still has leverage to ask for something in return l
on the fiscal cliff, so why are so many lawmakers had enough of washington? later, we are joined with a later, we are joined with a hyundai -- holiday-themed >> negotiations in washington are up in the air and with nothing to vote on most lawmakers are headed home for the weekend, but legislators are likely to get an earful about their lack of progress. >> lawmakers getting a lot of washington while they can. >> we have heard eric cantor and house republicans forcing members to be in town for the christmas holiday if the deal is not done before that. >> leave us alone. >> these are the frustrated constituents they will face it social security jobs are cut. >> there will be backlog and disabilities will skyrocket. processing times will skyrocket. >> the few lawmakers left on capitol hill will get some advice when economist mark zandi testifies, and more fallout according to the treasury secretary. >> his did administration prepared to go after the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. >> a source tells of president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. >> we cannot negotiate by ourselves. >> the hold
're not going off this fiscal cliff. >> representative, the question might be, how do we get to that deal? as we mentioned earlier, the "new york times" reporting that negotiations are now down to just the speaker. >> yes. >> and the president. this is at speaker boehner's request. i want to get your reaction. here's david axelrod talking about the politics behind all of this. >> okay. >> both the president and the speaker are very fluent in the basic numbers. they have been living with them for some time now. so as i said, i don't think that there's a lot of mystery about this. the politics has to be traverse. they've got to get through the rocky shoals of grover norquist. >> congresswoman, some democrats are saying that this is not the situation, it's not going to be mano, as we've been saying. what do you know about that in terms of how they are negotiating and is it the best for them to be one on one? >> well, i think it does not hurt for them to be one on one. i have to be concerned about what the leaders are saying about being excluded. but if we take this moment and if this is what they h
for your future. ♪ >>> if congress and the president can reach a deal on averting the fiscal cliff it may well mean higher taxes for the wealthiest americans. cnn political editor paul steinhauser explains what that means. >> hey, joe. raising taxes on high earning americans is the biggest sticking point between president obama and congressional republicans as they try to hammer out a deal to avert the country falling off the fiscal cliff. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%. by doing that alone we raise almost trz z $2 trillion. >> increasing rates will hit small businesses that produce 60 to 70% of the new jobs in our country. >> most americans agree with the president. a majority say they are okay with raising taxes on people with incomes over a quarter million a year. this poll is one of three surveys out over the past week and a half to indicate the public gives a thumbs-up to raising taxes on high earners. the polls indicate a big partisan divide with democrats and independents supporting such a move and a majority of republicans opposed. the polls also suggest that
entrepreneurship. so what's a short-term fiscal cliff deal and longer-term budget, what does that come how does it have to be structured in your view in a way that will put us in a position to deal with these other things? >> short term it's the issue of the sequester between dollars, how do we make the cut but the president is very clear about this. we should not cut access to higher education. my own state, we've seen cutting of fire education. how is that going to help pennsylvania's, or americans to build have access when attractive companies, if we don't have a skilled workforce. that's always been important, how do we actually -- so we need to make sure that we're helping education, our role. [inaudible] all of our schools could do better, either finest public schools. in my own district has lots of very good schools and some that are struggling. even the most on the wealthiest school districts want the federal government to help them. that starts at a very early age. access to education i don't have families and digits are earning incomes of $50,000, think about that. how do they do that
jerramy e centanni is live with the latest on the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: there is no deal yet. no negotiations, face to face, but one republican is giving ground this morning on a major stumbling block. and that's the tax rates for the wealthy. and a key democrat expressing optimism. here's the two side, moving a bit closer together on "fox news sunday." let's listen. >> i think we will get an agreement. the reason i think we will get an agreement. what's standing in the way is revenues, particularly making that top rate go up to 39-6. but i think we are seeing real progress. i think you will see our republican colleague, reluctantly say let's go up to 39-6. >> a lot of people are saying, give the president the 2% increase he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%. so there is a growing body. i am beginning to believe that's the best route for us to take. >> reporter: saying, go ahead give the president the tax increase on the highest 2% of wage earners. but house speaker and john boehner have not sat down for negotiations. even though corker is saying there is growi
lawmakers don't get it together soon. president obama saying now a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff could be about a week away. there is just one catch. he says republicans have to accept the, quote: reality as he puts it that tax rates are going up for the richest americans. something g.o.p. leaders are calling a deal breaker. >> we're not insisting on rates just out of spite or out of any kind of partisan bickering. but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. we can probably solve this. it's not that tough. but we need that conceptual break through that says we need to do a balanced plan. >> we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis and that offer included significant spending cuts reforms and it included additional revenue. and frankly, it was a balanced approach mr. president has been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. >> they have 27 days to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts from kicking in on new year's day. ed henry live at the white house for us. ed, we are hearing the president and house speaker john boehne
the markets are really going to be dealing with the political wrangling over the fiscal cliff to begin the week. really no agreements to speak of and i really don't think you're going to see any. it's going to come down to one of these last minute issues because both sides continue to butt heads and we're no closer than we were two weeks ago. from an employment perspective, look for the numbers to come in on average probably around 100 to 125 thousand jobs created. that's where our average really stands. maybe some skewed data from hurricane sandy but you back that out and i think things really stand the same. gold futures and options are very popular right now. what's going on here? i think really one has to think about if this economy would ever get any legs, any momentum. you have to think about the inflation picture. the fed has got so much emphasis on this market. it's an open ended quantitative easing market at this point. any type of momentum, any type of inflation, people are going to be concerned about that and that's why you're seeing this major interest in gold. will warmer
street journal report." i'm maria bartiromo. tick tock, the clock is running out on the fiscal cliff. i will talk to the former cabinet secretary who says going over the fiscal cliff is better than getting a bad deal. >>> the auto industry is back. what it is doing right even in a soft economy. we will find out what is driving profitability. >>> and curtains up on the billion dollar women who made the lion roar. my conversation with julie taymor. >> it's made 4 to $6 billion no no one complained about it. >> >> "wall street journal report" begins right now. >> this is america's number one financial news program "wall street journal report." no now, maria bartiromo. >> here's a look at what is making news. some surprisingly good news about america's economy. the labor department says 146,000 new jobs were created in november. much better than economists' expectations. the unemployment rate drop theed 2/10 of a percent now at 7.7%. the best number since december of twachlt the labor department says superstorm sandy had little affect on those numbers. >>> the markets continue their familia
, to deficit reduction and dealing with the fiscal cliff, we're talking about fairness. we're talking about making sure that if you work hard and play by the rules everyone has a chance to succeed. that the middle class needs certainly tight right now. speaker pelosi and my colleague congressman tim walls, filed a discharge petition today to take the bill that we have, that has already passed the senate, that grants certainty to the middle class, to take that bill up and make sure that we can extend the middle class tax breaks before the holidays where we can give -- that's what everyone agrees on. i don't know any republican or democrat that thinks we should let those tax rates -- tax cuts for the middle class expire. so we should pass that now. and then on the things that we're having more trouble agreeing on, we should sit down at the table. the one thing i can assure you, the president and democrats in congress, have consistently said, we're not going to do this -- there is no my way or the highway. we have concrete proposals and compromise on the table, thus far, though, we have republ
such differing opinions about what would happen if we fall off the fiscal cliff. >> january 1, no, no big deal. particularly if treasury decides to freeze withholding schedules and tax rates don't actually go up. by the end of january, things start to get uncomfortable. at the end of february, thinls get really uncomfortable. >> this does seem to put a little more time on the plate of congress which tends to expand at a time that you give it. >> i think if you've got very different it ideological views. i think the spending cuts would be positive for the economy. and so, the democrats believe exactly the opposite of that and so this is a dispute over very big ideas. this is a dispute about the future of our federal budget and how we're going to operate washington. >> as we said earlier, there's there consensus that, oh, we'll get something, it's the congress. is that consensus beginning to waiver? >> it depends who i talk to, really. but i do think there is a movement towards your prooef guest tom cole, when he, i think it's been a couple of weeks ago, it was leak what he said. he said the rep
. >>> meanwhile, back in washington, with just over three weeks left to make a deal on the fiscal cliff, both sides out with new statents today. and on the surface, they still sound far apart. president obama this morning saying he's going to insist on raising taxes on the wealthiest americans no matter what. >> if we're serious about reducing our deficit while still investing in things like education and research that are important to growing our economy, and if we're serious about protecting middle-class families, then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >> meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle, republican senator marco rubio gave the weekly republican address today. part of his message? the tax rate should not go up on anyone including the top 2%. >> we must reform our complicated, uncertain, job-killing tax code by getting rid of unjustified loopholes. but our goal should be to generate new revenue by creating new taxpayers, not new taxes. >> joining me, author of "the escape artists: how obama's
to deal with the so-called fiscal cliff. even though for months they have not really flushed out with great detail where they wanted to see savings, yesterday they did. they came out with a proposal which talked about waiving the eligibility age for medicare from 65 to 67. they talked about recalculating the cost-of-living adjustment for seniors who are on social security. it's the so-called chained c.p.i. which would lower the year in and year out increase for people on social security in terms of keeping up with the cost of living. and these proposals really need a full vigorous debate before the american people before we move in that direction which i would argue and certainly you and others here this afternoon would be the wrong direction for middle class and working family americans. you know, in terms of medicare, i think it's really important historically to review how medicare came into existence. in 1965 when it was signed into law, president lyndon johnson, on the porch of harry truman's house in independence, missouri, half of all americans had any insurance whatsoever
the fiscal cliff. but right now they're miles apart and digging in their heels. president obama told bloomberg tv a deal is possible, but -- >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> reporter: that plan sent to the white house offers a total of $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over the next decade. that includes $1.2 trillion in spending cuts and $800 billion in new tax revenue, but here's the key. no rate increases in the top 2% of taxpayers. that's non-negotiable for president obama. >> we're not going to be able to got a deal without it. >> reporter: the white house says the republicans' math just doesn't add up. >> it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> reporter: negotiations have reached a stalemate. >> there's nothing going on privately that is not going on publicly. >> reporter: there is no plan at this time for congressional leaders to meet with the president at the white house, and it doesn't sound like he's sending out invitations any time soon. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. >> reporter: earlie
do you think should be happening here to try and get a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff happening? >> i have no doubt people are working very hard to get a deal. i wish their discussions -- well, now we have the president re-elected and we have a new congress. i think it's right they get them to the business of sorting this out. i think america's got to think that what it needs to do is get growth in its economy as well. and it needs to get growth by trade and exporting. i think what we're missing at the moment is a global agreement whereby big powers try to rebuild confidence in the world. yes, have you to sort out the fiscal problems. yes, you also have to have growth because that's the key to employment and to prosperity to the future. there's a global deal waiting to be done with china, europe, india also involved in this and, of course, america itself, where we could build the confidence that is necessary to get higher levels of growth around the world. >> and finally, gordon brown, i couldn't let you go without asking the view of the single biggest news story to hit the planet in
with the fiscal cliff. this deal will only get done by president obama and john boehner making a deal. they came close in the summer of 2011. the parties are so polarized and partisans polarized this is a problem. >> i keep saying we need a presidential historian or hostage negotiator. somebody could say we've been at stalemates before, gotten over it, shut down the government in '96. tip o'neill and ronald reagan managed to solve problems and get along. listen to what john mccain said about what we need here. >> it's time now to sit across the table from one another, rather than -- in the way they did with ronald reagan and the way you get things done in washington. >> the way they did with ronald reagan and get things done in washington. you sit together and figure it out. they were at a holiday party they didn't talk to each other. they're issuing sort of statements and rebuttals and saying i'm not going to budge. >> negotiation by press release. this is not how things get done in washington and part of the problem of the growing incivility in washington. people don't work together the way th
services, inc >> eric: start with a fox news alert. new push for the deal for fiscal cliff, not apparent for progress of this moment. the clock is ticking down. end the year for mandatory tax hikes set to kick in. welcome to new hour of "america's news headquarters." i'm eric shawn. >> i'm jamie colby. more talk of the miscall cliff is coming. house speaker john boehner in an exclusive interview with "fox news sunday" saying, "we're nowhere" in fiscal cliff talks with democrats. treasury secretary tim geithner saying and telling chris wallace republicans must accept the tax hikes for the wealthy to reach a deal. a deal is what we are after. peter doocy live in washington with more. peter, tell us first, speaker boehner -- the big problem right now with the white house proposal that was just presented. >> jamie, speaker boehner says he was flabbergasted when the treasury secretary geithner came to capitol hill and told him what the president wants. and this is why. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion worth of new revenue in ten years. twice as much as he has been asking for in pu
december 17 to deal with the fiscal cliff. the house returned to business this week on tuesday at 2:00 p.m. eastern. they will be appointing members to work with the senate on defense programs. live coverage when the house returns here and c-span. the synod -- the senate returns on monday. they will also consider a nomination for assistant secretary of housing and development. live coverage when they return on c-span2. >> joining as and vermont is governor peter shumlin. thank you for being with us. >> it is great to be with you. thank you for being with us. let me begin with some news of the weekend. that is former republican gov. charlie crist is not a democrat. do you welcome him to the democratic party? is this setting the stage as a potential run as governor as a democrat nunn could 2014. >> he was hugely helpful in electing president obama. it is a great victory for us. he is an incredibly capable victor. we do not take sides before we know that we have one single candidate. everyone knows he was a great governor. he led florida with precision. if he is a candidate, we would welcom
in the fight over the fiscal cliff. a deal has to be hammered out in 26 days or all of us will be dealing with heavy-handed tax hikes and sweeping cuts. the two sides are keeping details of the discussion yesterday under wraps. thil standing their ground on tax hikes for the top 2%. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who, the rich. >> once republicans acknowledge that rates are going up for top earners, we believe that an agreement is very achievable. >> kate baldwin is live from washington, d.c. really nice to see you, kate. i know i went into this saying that we're light on details. i'm wondering if you know anything else, are we closer to an agreement. >> i think we're a long way from a deal. although it's one issue they're fighting about. politically they are still very far apart. the two men as you mentioned, the president and speaker boehner did speak for the first time yesterday, the first time in a week which i guess at this point in and of itself is significant because there isn't much talking going on outside of that. but neither side is off
and confidence and we can then have the revenue from the higher income to help deal with the fiscal cliff. the problem with closing loopholes is it's difficult to get anywhere near the type of revenue you can get from the rates on the higher income. >> fair enough. now if there is a compromise and you get the rates you want, don't you have to give up something? what key government function that's important to senator cardin would you put on the fable and a hey, i'll let this go to get something i want? >> we've always said it's got to be balanced between revenue and spending cuts. we understand and know we need to bring down the cost of healthcare. if we can bring down the cost of healthcare, we can save the economy money. >> would you be willing to see the medicare enrollment age raised? >> all that does is shift the cost to other people. we've got to bring down the cost of healthcare. our economy pay as to much for the healthcare dollars. we've got to get better results. >> is there anything else you can specifically put on the table? i got to press you on this that would hurt you the w
beyond the storm clouds. the fiscal cliff is fixable, but every day washington fails to make a deal, more damage is being doing. john king, ken rogoff and diane swan, chief economist at mezaro financial. john, right now, this is more politics than the economy. some people are saying don't sweat it. the threat of going over the fiscal cliff is overblown. it will get done. an 11th hour deal. john, as you read the politics at play, what do you see? >> i see both sides digging in. you've just played the president saying i want that rate hike. the republicans are saying mr. president, we'll give you the revenues, but not through a rate hike, but the president believes he won the election and he's upped the ante. says he wants twice as much in tax revenues than a year and a half ago, so the president believes he has the higher ground. i think maybe the democrats have a deeper trench, if you will. they have public on their side. but if you talk to people in washington, there's still this sense that at a last minute, reason will prevail, but there's not a lot of optimism. you know this and my col
are out there on this fiscal cliff story? we seem to feel that there's a deal in the air. why else do we see such optimism today? rick? >> oh, for me? i'm sorry. i'll tell you what, maria, i'm not sure what's going on in washington. i'm not sure who those republicans are. i'm not so sure on whether the fiscal conservatives in the party know something about some big reforms on medicare and medica medicare, social security is, any of the retirement or tax issues, but i'll tell you this. i think that all these stories aren't necessarily going lead us to the truth. i personally have a very size way i'm approaching this. the president is supposed to leave for a 21-day vacation in hawaii on december 17th. where he is on december 18th will tell me, and i think the markets will pay attention. i find it hard to believe, and i agree with bill and many, who are very not amused by the house taking their long weekend. i'm sure that the president would have no intentions of leaving until these issues are resolved. i think the market is being kind, but i think it's a timing issue. >> yeah, i think that
on that in a moment. >> investment banks paralyzed by the fiscal cliff. we'll find out what it will take to get deals going once again. >> we expect the president to speak on the fiscal cliff before the business roundtable. we'll bring you his comments live. citigroup cutting 11,000 jobs taking a billion dollar charge. kayla tausche has more. >> investors see this as a positive. a big move for a new ceo who is just getting his sleeves rolled up. the cuts will span across nearly all of the company's divisions but biggest slice of the pie coming from global consumer banking cutting 6,200 jobs there. the cuts are broad. nearly 2,000 jobs cut from the institutional clients group including investment banking six times the layoffs reported to take place in the securities business earlier this month. jim cramer said earlier that it feels like citigroup has been cutting jobs forever but that's because the bank has downsized by a third since peak employment in 2007. most of that cutting took place after he took the reigns. it will have 261,000 jobs once these cuts are done. the 11,000 announced today is a big
. in a new interview president obama says a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff is still possible but not without higher taxes for the wealthy. the president sat down with bloomberg for his first tv interview since the election and the fiscal cliff face off. he reiterated that lying in the sand is higher taxes for the wealthy. he gave republicans some room to maneuver. >> the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgment that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlemented ientitlements i'm prepared to make, we have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. we're not getting a deal without it. understand the reason for that. it's not me being stubborn or partisan, it's a matter of math. >> and the gop plan, which was unveiled yesterday, includes $800 bill onin new taxes made through closing loopholes and deductions and not raising rates. compare that to the president's plan and that's about half of what the white house asked for. republicans propose 600 billion in entitle
the president adopted a strategy to slow walk our economy to the edge othe fiscal cliff. -- edge of the fiscal cliff. >> vice president joe biden said a deal could be done in 15 minutes. he made the comments during a lunch with people the white house described as middle class. >> couple hundred bay area senior citizens made noise today about the fiscal cliff. [ music playing ] >> they held a flash mob in front of the federal building in downtown san francisco. they are rallying for social security, medicare and medicare. they support the president's plan. >>> another winner. what we know about the latest person to claim a huge power ball jackpot. >> the weather is looking nice. the warmest day of the weekend and when shower chances return in the five-day forecast. >> parents complain their daughters are being bullied. we will tell you what is happening at a middle school. [ laughter ] [ girl ] wow, you guys have it easy. i wish i had u-verse when i was your age. in my day, we didn't have these fancy wireless receivers. blah blah blah. if i had a sleepover, i couldn't just move the tv into the
to get a deal that will prevent us from going off the fiscal cliff and probably going to be a deal that the white house will be happy with. i think it's increasingly clear that the white house has the upper hand, they're better off if -- they're better off than republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. they have leverage from the campaign. that's the directionion -- speaker boehner today kept the door open to raising rates on the wealthy as part of a negotiating plan. >> at the white house, what are you hearing as to how much flexibility the president thinks he has? >> it's interesting. i had an interesting conversation yesterday with senator sheldon, white house democrat from rhode island, on the senate budget committee, he said look if we go through january 1st without a deal, it's not the end of the world. it will be the end of the world if they never get resolved. if they don't get resolved until mid january or february we'll be okay. from the white house and democrats we want a deal but not afraid to go past this deadline without a deal as susan said, they know they have the
obama said tax rates must rise on the wealthiest americans as part of any deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. this morning r the president met with a bipartisan group of governors at the white house. jerry brown was not among them. the group did not endorse any specific proposal on avoiding the sharp tax and spending cuts that could take effect in january. president obama says it's possible that the tax rates could later be lowered as part of a comprehensive tax overhaul. >>> police responding to an early-morning burglary in san jose are surprised at what they found. we'll have exclusive video of the discovery. >>> rosemary's back in about nine minutes to tell you more about the new storm rolling in and when rain will increase in your neighborhood. >>> it's a first of its kind set up in the bay area. ahead with a new solar facility dedicated an hour ago is getting a lot of attention. on your prepaid card? introducing chase liquid. the reloadable card with no fee reloads and withdrawals at chase atms. all for one flat monthly fee so there's zero confusion. get rid of prepaid problems. get cha
agreement on one thing. they are nowhere near a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. peter doocy is life in washington with more. >> republicans have had their proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff complete with 800 billion of new revenue over a decade on the table for more than a day now. it has yet to be publicly embraced by the slightest bit by any prominent democrats. because of that gop lawmakers are saying that means the white house wants to go over the fiscal cliff to make it a point. >> howard dean said it patti murray who ran the senator ideal committee. i think the presidency is a political victory for his party as they go over the cliff. i know republicans are concerned there is going to be a secondary session. >> the white house proposal raises taxes 1.6 trillion over a decade. republicans close loopholes and get rid of deductions. they say the mast won't work. >>> it is still out of balance. it is 800 million worth of revenues. he said he is going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the map it doesn't work. >> the house majority with kevin mccarthy said yeste
rock in new york city. >>> the effort to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff is now a two-man operation. president obama and speaker boehner. thank you. nobody else will be in the room. with 24 days before a year-end deadline, "the new york times" says boehner made the request to clear the negotiation room going forward, leaving it up to himself and the president to reach a deal to avoid automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and while the two men may be negotiating privately, yesterday the president took his mess dwrooj the public, visiting a local virginia family as a part of his social media campaign. while sitting around the kitchen table, he told the family he felt optimistic. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is this is a solvable problem. the senate has already passed a bill that would make sure the middle class taxes do not go up next year by a single dime. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%, but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done
wants to avoid with this fiscal cliff conversation. that's why a deal is going to be hammered out probably before the end of the year. the president does have a little political head wind. >> this gives, i think, labor a real opportunity to show the country the graph that we showed, the separation between corporate profits are right there at a record level and wages are going down. the republicans have been so strong to even want to take away workers voices in the workplace. but in these fiscal cliff negotiations, do you really think that the republicans see this chart and they need that economy to slow down a little bit if they are going to win this? >> maybe so. the income inequality in this country has been a problem but it has been for decades. it's been exacerbated by policies passed more recently. so when you go into negotiations, you ask, is it politically correct to be out there arguing that the 2% need to have their tax cuts protected? that's the problem that republicans face. labor does have a bit of an upper hand on this one. but then again, you look at all the stuff be
cliff with senator senators schumer from new york and senator corker. any deal to avoid the fiscal cliff is up to president obama and house of representatives spear boehner but never is very optimistic. the latest on the negotiations which will affect us all is next. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. so i never missed a beat. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >>shepard: we have signs of improvement in the job markets with millions still out of the work. the national unemployment rate fell from 7.9 percent to 7.7 percent last month. that is the lowest rate in four years. it comes despite the loss linked to super storm sandy. but the government reports the unemployment rate fell largely because so many americans gave up their search. at the same time, the u.s. economy added 146,000 jobs in november above what the analysts predicted. well above. and gerri, where do we see the biggest gain? >>gerri: in retail. no surprise for holiday season. we expect add big impact
a chance looking bad by leaving town before making a deal on the fiscal cliff. what's going on? if you take an aspirin to prevent heart trouble check the labor. our own dr. sanjay gupta tells us what a new study says about the effects of coated tablets. we'll also hear what happened during in flight emergency during one of the world's newest high-tech planes. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in the situation room. >>> with just 27 days to go until all of us are hit with tax increases, takes it across the board a cut of $55 billion. people have it in their power to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff aren't negotiating, they're not debating right now, so many of them simply leaving town. but there's more going on than meets the eye. let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent dana basch, she has the latest. >> reporter: there's so much political theater around here right now, you could say tickets. one of today's acts was the house leaving. lawmakers streaming out of the capitol hill, racing to their cars to get to the airport and go home. it's a scene you usually see on a thursday afternoon
. >> detroit goes into bankruptcy before the new year. >> to avoid the fiscal cliff, we will be cut between the week between christmas and new years. >> we go over the cliff and get a deal right after new years. >> mort? >> the economy is going to be very weak despite the solution on the fiscal cliff. >> ryan is right on the cliff, by the way. i predict the u.s. afghanistan by december 31, 2013. bye-bye.
, which is highly unusual, what makes that so special? the fiscal cliff could be a big deal. i'm going to put it in an amusing way, it is the need to get out of your mother in law's house. pretty intuitive concept when you think about it. we have a break here. because the market is so darn tough. and that could be your chance for the analysts. here is the bottom line. we need hope to be van switkwis. he so that it is so negative. have them leave the room. and we can return to the growth themes and they are autos and homes. by them on the way down and never on the way down as the scared sellers buy them out. you can take your time. who the heck knows when and from what level you can get back in. why don't we go to tom in new york. >> big lots and slower same store sales and make it a buy. it had it's gob and i don't want you to come in now. i think that big lots is not a great operator. the market needs to free itself from the notion that there will be a deal. that is what needs to happen. take your time. this hope is still not dashed enough to make this market immune from more disappoi
. the obama administration says it is prepared to go off the fiscal cliff. let help spur a deal? new images of the duchess of cambridge leaving the hospital this morning with prince william at her side. a surety under fire for an incentive photo taken at a party. the students are not being disciplined. an investigation about thieves are gaining easy access to your rooms. music from john travolta and olivia newton-john getting a lot of attention this morning appeared that and much more when we get started on a thursday morning. >> scary. 6:53. coming up, we'll look at your answers to our water cooler question of the day. >> we'll take a last look at weather and traffic together before you head ou >> time to get to your answers to our water cooler question of the day. these us some of the best -- these are some of the best. >> this morning we asked, do you think eating or putting on makeup should be included in distracted-driving fines? i love this one. [laughter] >> we will post more answers on our website, wbaltv.com. >> been there. here are some stories you'll find at 7:00 a.m. on wbal plu
that republicans have to deal with as they think about the politics and the optics of how the fiscal cliff gets resolved. in the end, they have got not much. they can say they have a mandate so it's equal, but it really isn't and they know that. >> we seem to know as much about mitt romney's taxes as we do about the loopholes republicans are willing to close in this. they can't offer any specifics. is this a turnoff for the people? >> in fairness we have to recognize that there's been a lack of specifics on both sides here. they are negotiating in public. you notice that that's how this stuff is coming out. it's not phone calls between the two sides or closed-door meetings. we don't know what spending democrats would cut and we haven't even begun the entitlements discussion, which the president is theoretically open to. so there's a lot that still needs to happen. i mean for you and me and normal people, three weeks away may seem like a short time, but there's a feeling that this has barely even begun. >> here's senator bob corker and claire mccaskill. here it is. >> i have just laid out in ver
of this fiscal cliff deal. that includes house democrats. and how do i go about doing that without totally alienating the base of my party? and i'm very curious to see what his next step is because his opening offer was essentially where he said he could only go in the debt ceiling bargains of july 2011. he said i can go to $800 billion in revenue, i can do these specific entitlement reforms. that's now his opening offer. where does he go here? >> i think, though, steve that the president of the united states and mr. lew and other democrats need to start looking at him differently. he is like an attorney that knows what his client is going to give and what his client's not going to give. we all know john boehner. john boehner's a deal maker. i didn't -- i liked him personally, but i never trusted him in congress because, you know, he liked making deals. that's what we need right now. the president can only push him so far. or he loses his caucus. and this is not about john boehner kicking and screaming. this is about him knowing what he can deliver. >> i understand that. john boehner has,
. the threat of going over the fiscal cliff is overblown. it will get done in an 11th hour deal. as you read the politics at play, what do you see? >> both sides digging in. you played the president saying, i want that rate hike. the republicans say we'll give you the revenues but not through a rate hike. the president believes he won the election and he upped the ante saying he wants twice as much in tax revenues than he wanted a year and a half ago. the president believes he has higher ground under this. i think maybe the democrats have a deeper trench, if you will. they have public opinion on their side. if you talk to people in washington there is a sense that at the last minute reason will prevail. there is a not a lot of optimism. you know this and my colleagues know it better than i do. more people are talking about the threat that if you don't deal with it you will send the united states back to recession and the global economy is teetering on recession. the stakes are in their political vaults. maybe they're blind to the enormous stakes. >> let me share something that struck me from
the president's proposal last week to avoid the fiscal cliff, john boehner today put out his own terms for a deal. which he says adds up to $2.2 trillion in savings. boehner's deal includes $800 billion in savings from tax reform from closing special interest loopholes and deductions. $600 billion in so-called health savings, which includes changes to medicare. 300 billion other mandatory savings. 300 billion in further discretionary savings. the white house swiftly shot it down. until the republicans in congress are willing to get serious about asking the wealthiest to pay slightly higher tax rates, we won't be able to achieve a significant balanced approach. >> a man who's been called one of the keys to reaching a real deal. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> let's begin with this letter that comes -- is addressed to the president and comes from the majority leader, boehner. in this letter, he sort of lays out part of his plan. what do you think of his plan as we've laid out so far, and in the specifics this letter. >> i think the first thing i've heard you say, the white house is re
camerota. and forget the fiscal cliff. deal or no deal. a new wave of taxes are the set to kick in next month, because of obamacare, will it be on the edge? , we'll break it down. >> mike: good morning, i'm mike in for dave. like the federal government do you have the urge to splurge? why impulse buying may be costing you and your family an extra $200 per month. >> plus, the twinky, may be here to stay after all. how one man is trying to save hostess from the brink of extension. "fox & friends" hour three starts right now. >> ♪ >> good morning, everyone, thanks so much. mike jerrick is here. >> mike: hello, can i say quickly? tomorrow is my brother, tom jerrick's birthday in maryland, and he's always at church every sunday morning, say hi to tom jerrick. >> clayton: so he was the disciplined one of the family. >> alisyn: we're getting this, you were the black sheep. >> mike: what are you trying to say? we have six kids. >> clayton: i'm saying that he's the colonel and you're not. >> mike: i'm just corny. mike jerrick is here everyone, great to see you and we have been focusing on
at this with a great deal of optimism. >> i think we're going over the fiscal cliff. it's pretty clear that they have made this happen. they are not saving social security and medicare and medicaid from imminent bankruptcy. jenna: james is live in washington with more. reporter: yes, what is clear is increasingly, the two sides -- the obama, white house, senate democrats on one side, senate republicans on the other, there is a ticking clock involved here. they should be hitting their stride right about now. timothy geithner is trying to avoid plunging of the fiscal cliff. he has made clear that the obama administration is saying that the first order of business has to be to extend tax breaks for middle-class families and raise tax rates for the top 2% of income earners. talks over how to rein in entitlement spending should be held sometime next year. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion of new revenue over 10 years. twice as much as he has been asking for the public. his stimulus spending exceeded the amount of new cuts that he was willing to consider. it was not a serious offer. reporter: en
will reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. if they're right, according to the nonpartisan tax policy center, families such as the watsons with annual income between $64,000 and $108,000 would see a tax increase of about $3,500. >> i think it just will put any future plans that we might have on hold, let's say fixing some electrical in our house. that's an immediate need that we have and we can't do it right now. >> reporter: they blame both the president and congress. >> it's very disappointing to see bipartisanship almost nonexistent. >> i call it the washington bubble. it's where they have no idea how their choices and their fighting and bickering affect the rest of us. >> reporter: there is, they say, a surprising upside to their financial challenges. they can't afford the fees for extracurricular activities, so after school they spend time together. >> we do a lot of things more as a family. we're not as materialistic as we've been in the past. but we're also seeing the blessings from it so we're stronger as family, our kids are closer to us. >> reporter: but with 27 days before the jan
speaker john boehner, trying to strike a deal to avert the looming fiscal cliff. >> reporter: you know, aides are providing no details, radio silence here, it was all done out of camera range, but you're right, sometime this afternoon, house speaker john boehner was here to meet face to face with president obama. it's the first glimmer of hope after weeks of stalemates. today a warning to republicans from a top senate democrat, no hike in taxes on the wealthy, no deal on the debt. >> even if it means going over the cliff? >> i don't want to do it, the president doesn't want to do it but we need to solve the problem. we do not want to drive this economy into another recession. a recession that the republicans will own. >> if we were to pass, for instance, raising the top two rates and that's it, all of a sudden, we do have the leverage of the debt ceiling and we haven't given that up. >> reporter: congress must again vote to raise that debt ceiling early next year, that would mean a replay of last year's battle and a chance for republicans to regain the upper hand. the president has la
. negotiations on a budget deal haven't gone very far and there are just 27 days before that so-called fiscal cliff. that's the package of tax increases for most americans and budget cuts that will hit automatically unless the white house and congress find a gentler way to solve the crisis in the federal budget. here's how treasury secretary tim geithner put it on cnbc. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. ren, it's only 2%. >> pelley: by 2%, he means individuals making more than $200000 and couples taking in 250,000 or more. republicans say rates shouldn't be increased on anyone. with no agreement, going over the fiscal cliff would be painful. the automatic tax increases break down like this: households making $20,000 to $4,000 would see an increase in $1,200 a year. incomes $40,000 to $64,000 would see taxes rise $2,000 and in the $64,000 to $108,000 bracket taxes go up $3,500 a year. mr. obama and the republican speaker of the ho
to go, anywhere closer to a deal of the fiscal cliff? if you listen to lawmakers, the answer is no, but cumberland advisers thinks a compromise is brewing. >> hundreds of thousands of cars destroyed by hurricane sandy, but as drivers rush to replace them, you may be forced to pay a higher price. >> huh. a car salesmen or congressmen? who do americans trust the least? the new numbers and lou dobbs taking up that up. >> how apple is expanding its empire into the crib. >> my goodness. there's little siri there and little macbook. goinged to floor of the new york stock exchange, and, lauren, economic data, down just a little bit in the red today, down 22 points 37 >> yeah, it is the first trading day of the new month. december, a strong month historically for the stocks, but there's a push and pull going on between market forces and the economic data, and we're in the red across the board, relatively flat this monday morning. the data, u.s. manufacturing activity last month lowest level since the summer of 2009, but then we got a construction spending report that was good. in october,
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